Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.14 02:01:00 -
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mynnna wrote:SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:As far as re-re-wording the ToS, Mynnna's proposal is spot on and I doubt myself or anyone else could come up with anything that is clearer and closer to the spirit of Eve. Maybe there should also be a provision against editing the wiki with malicious intent, but other people already touched up on this. However, after reading Karidor's previous posts posts it seems the wording is ultimately irrelevant, because even with the previous version, the GM team was working not under the ToS, but under their interpretation of what the ToS reads between the lines : GM Karidor wrote:So, onwards to the ToS, which now contains the following after the change: Quote:...
8. You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer. You may not impersonate or falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player, group of players, character or NPC entity.
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This was changed from: " You may not impersonate or present yourself to be a representative of CCP or an EVE Online volunteer." only. The highlighted bit is, from what I understand, the only part that is worded slightly differently from the other two places, but in our interpretation also falls into "falsely represent his or her identity", and always has. While I am fairly sure (and I can understand that is an internal company policy matter) no CCP employee will come here willing to discuss the degree of freedom allowed to GMs or admitting that GM interpretation of the ToS can be sometimes arbitrary beyond common sense, I hope at least in private CSM will approach this matter and get a form of assurance that the written rules and only those will govern action or inaction taken by GMs (except borderline cases or loopholes, obviously) Otherwise, no matter how and how often the ToS is changed, we'll always have the unpleasant surprise to hear "yes, but in our interpretation ..." I do happen to agree that their interpretation is valid with the way the EULA & naming policy are currently written, and do believe that they've been enforcing it that way for awhile, even though it differs so strongly from the common player interpretation. This is why I believe so strongly that the way they are written should be changed. 
I personally dont have a problem with this, but there is a few things that have to be clarified, as a Roleplayer, and many like me, we create stories, where we claim to have done tasks for this NPC corporation, some may ewen claim to have spoken with this NPC person, and its done from character and story driven perspective, for you that been in the summit, may hear several things that relate to NPC organisation, persons etc... and for me and i think many other Roleplayers, that we dont get hit with a tabu that threatens our way of acting in Eve, we are sort of not the issue most of the time ;P, so how do you clearly make a distinct written wording, to allow Roleplay and not limit that in the effort to avoid scams through impersonating afiliation with NPCs and their corps... thank you |